Ok so I've ordered 9 pairs of Barbell Cartel's shorts. Somehow they've managed to perfect shorts for guys in between Medium to Large and Large to XL. I I had 7 pairs of these shorts that I cycled everyday throughout the week and normally I wear a large in shorts and although they felt great when I ordered Large, the Mediums I thought felt better. Then I put on a bunch of sympathy weight from my fiance's pregnancy and although in most clothes I went to an XL, Barbell Cartel was there and the Large shorts still fit me extremely well. I then ordered 2 more pairs in Large. Now that I've lost that baby weight and can fit in my mediums again, I can not wait to get these new colors they offer. I bought the mint, midnight camo, yale blue, charcoal (twice, 1 in each size), multi cam, black(twice), light gray. I hope they get more Lilac and citrus in! They fit right above the knee but don't go up too high for those of us whose quads don't want to grow ;). BUY THEM!